Think I would have to have gone over the barrier Rosina but then would I have been run over by a train or something. Sarah you are very brave to shave your head. You still have eyebrows. Is it too painful as it is. Seems a shame to lose what you have left but I understand why you would want to. I have been so lucky with my hair but I think its to do with the fact that my hair hasnt seen any bleach or colour for a good few years now so it was prob in quite good condition. I used to get highlights but got so fed up of them really drying my hair out that I just wait for summer and get the natural ones. Saying that we are not out of the woods yet but I am quietly confident that it cant all fall out now. Have lost most of my eyebrows though and my lashes are quite thinned out but I am not so concerned about them. My cold cap yesterday was excruciating. Brought tears to my eyes but I cant stop now. I have also been using a botanical treatment which is supposed to protect the hair and follicles from the freeze so I dont know what has worked but I am not changing anything for the next two. I have done really well today, been shopping, done loads of washing up, been to see my mum, done loads of washing, taken the dogs out, fed all the plants and now I have my feet up. My sister broke her ankle last year and bough and old mobility scooter which is now in my garage ready for me to drag the dogs around if I cant manage to walk. Seems weird to think that side effects kick in some much later. I am feeling well, have no nausea and am taking no tablets. Halved the steroid dose for today so will carry on with another half dose tomorrow and then see what happens.
When my surgeon found one positive node he was happy to just do chemo and no more surgery, the American way but the MDT insisted that I had full node clearance. My main concern was lymphodema as I am right handed but so far so good just paranoid now about getting cut or bitten. Does anyone know of a good skin kind insect repellant. Last year I really reacted badly to every bite and swelled up in large areas and I dont want that again expecially with no lymph nodes on the right. Its been such a beautiful day here and I am now tempted to cut the grass but think that may be pushing it ...
Hi Susie B,
I decided to go right and take the long and scenic route.
Ended clocking up 6,000 steps.
Currently flopped on my bed, experiencing lower back pain with a vengeance.
Wondering weather it is due to :
1) PMT - period due this Friday and so far it hasn’t given up. When I was told it would stop I thought it would immediately!
2) T drug
3) White blood cell injection-.last one was today and I didn’t do it very well as I wasn’t concentrating properly so lost half of it ( does rubbing lost drops on the skin work ? ) .
I am going to pick (1) from the above.
PS I also managed to burn the pine nuts ( toast not bbq them says my fool proof recipe).
Yes definitely PMT
In my next life I want to be a plant .
That was Rosina not me, I haven't got off the sofa today, let alone gone out for a walk!
Sorry Edinbird blame me for the surgery stories. I had a call this morning asking if I could see surgeon tomorrow - they had a spare appt so that meant I would definitely get that out of the way before my holiday. I know I'm having a lumpectomy but, like you the nodes are an absolute mistery. I had a few questions prepared, but needed a heads up on what else I could or should ask. Hope your throat gets better soon.
Leading on thank you so much to all of you for getting back to me. I am terrified of the anaesthetic so will definitely make sure they know about that one. As for bras I've already bought a couple of post op ones from Asda. Reasonably priced and soft and comfortable. Will ask surgeon if I'll need any others. There were a few questions I hadn't thought of and a couple I don't know if I'll want to ask at all. I don't know what I would have done with your support.
Sonia28 I hope they get you sorted. PICC line problems on top of the thrush is the last thing you need. To date Klingon has been fine but I'm a bit concerned bc nurse is happy to go 11 days without being cleaned through etc. I fully expected to have PICC care on the Tuesdays before and after my little jaunt to France. Hope they know best.
Implausible so what did you do after being faced with your little conundrum🤔? I don't think I would have braved going over the barrier, much as I would have liked to.
All the Best to everyone I haven't mentioned. Thinking of you all xxxxxx
Ok anyone with a weak stomach look away now, as these photos are NOT pretty!!!
I haven't showed anyone outside of my immediate family just how god awful I look now, but if I can't be honest with you ladies, then what can I do?
OK deep breath....
So.....my hair is now so downright horrid that the sight of it depresses the living daylights out of me.
Ok this post is all messed up. Ignore this photo here and pretend it is right at the bottom of the page where it is supposed to be. It will all make sense later
(See pics below)
So I have made the decision today to just shave the whole thing off. Bald has to look better than that!
And I'm going to ditch the cold cap for the last 2 sessions. Not like it did much for me anyway!
I did find it really uncomfortable last time and it will be a relief not to have to bother.
Other half is going to shave me at the weekend. He is used to it as he does his every morning we will be bald twins!
Wish me luck
Sarah - who genuinely can't believe that chemo has gone from that last pic at the bottom to the new ones in just 3 months. That photo (bathroom selfie showing off a new dye job ) was taken on 2nd Feb , 10 days after my lumpectomy, and 2 weeks before my first round of FEC.
You wouldn't think it was the same person would you?
Proper catch up time
First of all, huge congrats to Daisy and Ocean for ticking another one off the list. Woohoo!!!
Enjoy those first few T days which are definitely nicer than the early FEC days, and I hope that when it does kick in for you later on it is mild and forgiving x
Ocean as ever your photos are spectacular. Some of those wouldn't look out of place in an exhibition, really!
Rosina your description of the crowded yoga yurt with everyone limbs a-tangled and stuff catching fire in the corner, really did make me laugh! I actually think the delay in your treatment worked in your favour, as day 3 post T is more manageable than day 10, from what I have read. I think you might have struggled! Although that said I couldn't do it at day 3 either
Marlyn I am keeping low but not moving very fast today
Oooh Susie I didn't realise your holiday was so soon! Brilliant!
I have sadly decided not to go ahead with my long weekend in Edinburgh in a week and a bit. That is my "good weekend" and I am sure by then I will be feeling ticketyboo. But so soon after my little hospital trauma (my other half laughed yesterday when we got home and I called it that, as he is used to me not being phased by anything, but it really WAS traumatic!), I don't think I would feel comfortable too far from home. Pity though as I was looking forward to a coffee with our lovely Edinbird!
Nettie how are you feeling today? Are those glands behaving?
That train ticket smile fooled me for a second
And today I have made it up to 3 on your scale
And Seaside? Hope you are still on the mend and enjoying your boxsets I am finally watching Umbrella Academy and enjoying it a lot more than I expected to. I read the comic when it came out about 10 years ago and wasn't particularly impressed. The TV adaption seems to have mainly taken the better bits. So that's good.
For all of you worrying about a gen anaesthetic for the first time, that is totally normal. I was "lucky" that I had had a hysterectomy 2 years ago, so it wasn't my first rodeo. I actually quite enjoy a GA now as that night you have the deepest loveliest sleep!! but before my first one I was TERRIFIED. I even wrote the kids letters to open in case I didn't wake up!!! Luckily they didn't know about them or they would have been worried. I was a twit. It was a breeze.
Injection wise, my nurse tells me to do mine at midday, but I am not sure why. If you haven't been told a specific time I guess you do what suits you?
Oh Sonia you are in the wars hopefully patched up and home from hospital now and feeling a little better?
Rosina...what would I do with the closed footpath? Today, call an uber
Big love to everyone
I have to have my injections after 1pm as that’s when my treatment finished, but anytime after that, just the same time each time. I do mine about 8:30pm.
Im to home now, blood levels were raised so weren’t sure to begin with, but happy to let me go home, and await swab results from PICC line.
I always had my fillywotsit injection at around 5:00 pm. Mainly because my hubby would definitely be home by then to do the deed. It helps if you take the syringe out of the fridge half an hour before injecting. Thanks for the information regarding surgery. My fear like yours is having the anaesthetic. I'm terrified😨😭.
This sign was up on my return from Lidle ( had to go for a bag of spinach).
It hadn’t been there on my walk in , I had used the foot path 1/2 hour ago.
Initially I was shocked ( who has done this to me ??? why ???) then I was amused 🤪 adventure !
Do I go left or do I go right? How do I get home?
Left means less walking but more traffic and not scenic.
Right means practically walking into town but much prettier and less traffic.
Could I ignore the sign and just clamber over ?
What would you do ?
I do my injections in the morning.
Just after breakfast.
Nobody indicated a specific time.
I am a morning person so I just get as much done am , so that I can forget about it afterwards.
all will be well tomorrow.
With my lumpectomy they also did a sentinel node biopsy.
The sentinel nodes are the ‘guardian nodes’ in the breast and the gateway into the rest of the lymph system.
My lump was 43 mm ( and they got good clearance) one sentinel node was positive .
I was a day patient for this op. In the early morning and out by the afternoon . No worries, no pain, lady anaesthetist ( who I liked - she asked me what my favourite tipple was on a Friday evening: red wine , last thing I remember, then I was back on the ward annoyed that people were talking over my head and I just wanted to keep sleeping 🤪 it was the nurses making sure I got fed and watered 🤗)
As one sentinel node was positive I was advised to have right axillary node clearance- which I did .
10 nodes were removed and 1 was found positive.
I again came home the same day with a drain in which came out 3 days later.
I slept in a sports bra from the time I left the hospital on this second op. Till when the drain came out . It was a front zipping sports bra from M&S , I then switched to a M&S soft bra ( no clippers, poppers, zips) more like a crop top but for adult women .
I did the arm exercises I was sent home with RELIGIOUSLY x3 a day .
Starting with the shoulder shrugs even when the drain was in.
They kept on re. Me stocking up on painkillers but I only took ibuprofen at bedtime. It was more discomfort than serious pain ( then again I compare everything to having had staples in my lower abdomen after a c section- and nothing has ever been as bad as that 🤪).
Also walk as soon as you are able, don’t stay lying in bed. You want everything to circulate.
Re. Strong painkillers the only time I took cocodemol ( codeine) I passed out in my bathroom- fortunately I could tell I was feeling funny and called out to H1. I will not take them.
Did I ask questions?
The one that I have written before me says :
’what is my prognosis?’
I wanted them to tell me and we went through PREDICT together with my surgeon.
Funny the different information we get,
MJB, I was told to have front fastening bras, I got the M&S ones. I did have mastectomy a reconstruction so not sure if you needed it to keep every thing in place, also had to wear 24hrs. But when I had mastectomy I was told anything without an underwire. When I went to get my prosthetic the other week she told me Asda do good post surgery bras ect on line. I also ended up investing in a expander to make my bras breathable, not sure if it was swelling or weight gain as I’ve definitely had both. I did invest in some bralettes, for after a feed weeks after surgery when I felt I couldn’t breath in the bra at night. They were just difficult to get in and out on my own
I am rubbish at asking questions of the docs, so I probably didn't ask much!
But in terms of my surgery, I had a lumpectomy and a couple of sentinel nodes taken out at the same time for testing
I was in for 2 nights, I think? Gosh I can barely remember. I think that was because I was late into theatre (7pm ish). If I had been in earlier I would have been home the next day.
I had a general anaesthetic which went super smoothly, and I felt fine after coming round, no nausea, and the pain there was was quickly sorted with one dose of oramorph. Once that wore off I was onto just paracetamol and ibuprofen. They offered me codeine but I didn't need it and it always gives me bad constipation so I declined.
My post surgery right boob is quite lovely pert and firm and in considerably better shape than it was before. My surgeon did a great job! There are scars but that's life.... and she was able to save the nipple although it is a bit flat now.
They ended up taking out 2 lymph nodes, one of which came back positive. Which was disappointing as they had all looked healthy on the scans. I have opted not to go back for a full clearance though as my surgeon and onco have showed me stats that basically say that chemo and radio should zap what is left, and the recurrence risk is not improved in my particular case by also clearing the rest of the nodes out, so why bother....
(I will always worry about that decision coming back to bite me!!)
Hmmm..... what else to tell you. Recovery was pretty smooth. I was fully recovered in about 3 weeks. Just in time to start chemo.
Oh and bras.... I was given 2 front fastening post surgery bras and I had to wear them all the time, day and night. They are super comfy, I am still wearing them (although not overnight any more). I haven't worn any of my old bras since surgery. My boobs are so lopsided still that I don't think I could find a "normal" bra to fit.
Once I have been "evened up" in August and am all healed, I shall go bra shopping
Just to let you know I was advised by my BC nurse not to get a front fastening sports bra as you can't adjust them. In fact she reiterated this on Monday in the moving forward course and apparently the worse ones are the zip type. I bought two high impact ones from Marks I was measured but my God were they too tight after surgery. Not the first few days but by about day four I was in real discomfort. So my friend bought me a larger under bust size from 34 D I went to a 36 B as I just could not stand the tightness. In fact these were still tight so I ended up cutting two old bra fasteners off and sewing them on the new ones to give me an extra inch. I did have a mastectomy with reconstruction mind you. So if you are having a lumpectomy you will probably not get the same issues as I had anyway. Of course as we know advice is different everywhere and front fastening might be the preferred style in your unit. But just to prepare you they will be tight and you have to wear it 24hours a day.
Just a quick update, went to get PICC flushed today, they didn’t like the look of me or my PICC line site, so have swabbed cultures and taken bloods. She said the hydrocortisone wouldn’t work as the rash is a reaction from the chemo so have given me antihistamine. Presently taken myself off to get my drugs and. Lunch as not allowed to leave hospital until results are in which could take up to 2hours. ( I just want my bed, feeling very sorry for myself so little sleep last few nights not helping the )
First thing this morning I was thinking yay - last chemo is next month! Now I’m reading all the surgery stories and feeling I have so far to go... wish I knew for sure what surgery I need, I know what the surgeon wants but that depends on the effectiveness of the chemo. Still 6 weeks til I’ll know.
I know it’s in two lymph nodes but I don’t really understand what will happen in terms of removal, I guess I want as little as possible but I just don’t know and I haven’t asked as it’s not relevant yet. The not knowing is the worst bit 😕
Need to get dressed as I’m still sat in my pjs and people are due! My throat is hurting more, need to keep an eye on it but it’s kinda achy gland hard to swallow discomfort rather than anything else so hoping it’s just more aches coming on
Re the injections I do mine in the evening so if it’s sore I can just go to bed but so long as you are consistent I don’t know that it matters?
Good morning Implausible
Oh it's so nice to read you are feeling ok. I love your assistant she looks very interested in her work 😀.
Keep well, rest and play a bit. Hope your appetite is ok.
Hi all, just a quick update about me, me, me
Will come back later and check in with you all properly but just confirming I am ok, slept like a log last night (8.5 hours!!! Without even getting up for a wee!!! Unheard of!), and am feeling reasonable today. Weak and a little achey but nothing major.
Took me a couple of hours after getting up to brave taking my temp but delighted to check in at a reasonable 37.0
Am back at work, but in case you worry about me exerting myself, work so far has consisted of one phone call and a few emails fielded on my phone while laying on the sofa under a blanket.
My assistant is helping:
Just quick question I have to start the injections tomorrow. Only one a day for 3 days. When is best time to do. It is Filgistram or something?
yes forgot about the bras sports bras and front fastening things for ease of examinations. Try to do exercises before you have surgery so you know what it feels like. Also bought a big v cushion to sleep with and had a lovely heart shaped cushion for under my arm. I had to stay in overnight on all occasions as I live alone but that is not the norm you will be sent home on same day all being well
Susie, I had a lumpectomy, the surgeon said I was lucky as the lump was on the side, so I only have a small dent....I was a day case, went in 7.20am, up to theatre 11am, drinking coffee and eating toast by 3pm, home having me dinner by 5pm.
stock up on soft bras ( good old marks) and absolutely make sure you do the exercises they give you....xxxx
Morning lovely ladies
Susie good luck for tomorrow, i had a skin sparing mastectomy nipple taken to due to the size of my tumour and the size of my DCIS, I just wanted it out then they found it in a node so a month later done full node clearance and luckily only found the barry in one,, just like daisydi i was terrified of the thought of the anaesthetic but once they were aware they were fantastic, I really can't remember the questions i asked if any, maybe, about showering, exercise the speed, the numbness in arm and boob, the drains driving xxx not sure what your question was now xx
Susie my first surgery was a batwing mammoplasty with sentinel node removal. It was a big op but I was scared of anaesthetic as I had never had one. Make sure they know you are worried the anaesthetist was fab when he knew how nervous I was. Just to warn you none of my nodes looked abnormal on u/s and showed no sign of swelling under my armpit but in the end they removed 24 and 4 were positive. I had to wear a really tight corset as there was a lot of tissue removed and moved around. That was the worst bit. I had a reaction to the waterproof dressing and developed really nasty blisters under it so keep an eye on that. Should have taken it off sooner. It really wasnt that painful just managed with over the counter painkillers. I ended up with 3 surgeries and was very disappointed when I knew they hadnt cleared margins. They removed my original tumour and found an area of DCIS which caused all the other surgeries. My tumour was the same size as yours 21mm, not sure how much DCIS there was. I was adamant I didnt want a mastectomy, an axillary node clearance or a drain. I didnt have mastectomy although they wanted to do it third time but had everything else. I just wasnt ready to have the whole lot off after going through 2 surgeries but then the third one cleared the 1mm margin so I was pleased with my decision. I still have plenty of boob. Just try to expect the unexpected and not be too disappointed if if doesnt work first time. Good luck x
Also just remembered all the questions I needed answers too I couldnt get before surgery. The waiting for results is the worst but once you have grading/staging etc. it is easier to manage
Just had a phone call to say I can have an appointment with my surgeon tomorrow at 9:40. Eeeeekkk! Not much notice. Can I put a shout out to those of you that have had surgery to ask what questions you asked and were there any that with the benefit of hindsight you'd wished you'd asked. I know I'm having a lumpectomy and I know there's some nodal involvement but not how much.Thanking you all in advance. xxxxxx
Rosina I made something very similar to this last night. Yummy! Got some left for tonight too x
Seaside Sar, well done for getting dressed. My husband can always judge my level of wellness by the following....
1. Is her sleep hat over eyes?
2. Has she been out of bed?
3. Has she had a shower?
4. Is she dressed?
5. Does she have makeup on?
I very rarely reach 5 but if I get to 4 I feel I’m winning. 😘
Morning Daisydi, yes I am OK now.
Yoga / core routine completed.
Breakfast of toast with orange marmalade and coffee.
Need to go out to buy some spinach for a spinach and chick pea sauté (another one of my fool proof recipes).
I have just listened to this podcast
Sarah hope you had a good night’s sleep.
Nettinoo and Sonia28 hope you are feeling better.
Trixielady have you finished your puzzle?
Seasidesar are you feeling stronger?
Love to all
Hi Daisydi, my neck and ear still painful but have started on the antibiotics so hopefully (if it is bacterial) they will help. Xxx
How is everyone doing today?
Hope you slept well, Sarah. Must be nice to be back home.
Well done, Daisy, powering through. Glad you're OK. Another one ticked off, woohoo!
Don't work too hard, Edinbird. Make sure you factor in some rest breaks.
Glad you're feeling OK after your first Taxol, Ocean. How many will you have?
Rosina, yoga sounds fun, if a bit sweaty!
Not long until your trip now, Susie. How wonderful! Love the name figlets for the little figs 😀
Nettie, I'm going to start collecting train tickets 😁
Marlyn, Sonia, Trixie, MBJ, Deano, Sandra & V, hope you're all good today.
I'm getting dressed today. That's an improvement on yesterday already. Have been binge watching The Marvelous Mrs Maisel. Really enjoyable and takes my mind of the aches and pains.
Hugs to you all,
Morning xx slept so much! Not sure if it’s good though... the sore chest I experienced on my walk came back during the night with a bit of a sore throat. If I get a sore throat normally it means I’ve been snoring. So that might be good if I was properly out. Anyway I turned over got comfy and slept again until about 4.30, trip to the loo and looked at phone for a bit then back to sleep before 6. Still in bed now feeling very tired. It’s a little uncomfortable to breathe but no need to cough or anything.
Going to get up and start work and at least I’ll have an easier afternoon when my
boss comes. If I’m ok to sit and talk to him that is, and not great that I’m going to have two big windows in the lounge taken out for a period too! If the weather was better today we could sit in the garden but it’s not. Oh well better get up and see if this improves.
Glad you’re feeling ok Daisy the steroids definitely help!
Morning all. I feel absolutely fine. Had a decent sleep one lot of 3 hours and then another 4 hour stint so I am happy. No sickness and no aches and pains yet. Better get lots of jobs done today before things change! Thanks for the info Susie I will take a look later. Have got stuff to read through but my only worry is if I get placebo and then its not doing anything. Hope everyone else ok. Are the Sarahs ok and Edinbird and Sonia how are you? Will take steroids in a min as they make me look healthy. Rosina are you ok now?
Morning girls, for those of us who are worried about what chemo is doing to our teeth.......😂😂😂
Hi again Daisydi, forgot to mention, if you want to find out more about your trial go onto the cancer research UK website, type in Aspirin in cancer type/drug type box and you'll find more info regarding the trial. I used that information alongside the literature I was given by the hospital to gain a better insight of my trial. Hope this helps. Susie xx
Well done for getting through your 1st T☺, I know you were feeling apprehensive about it, along with everyone else, including me, and I'm ages away from starting it😟. The aspirin trial sounds interesting and yes when you go in a trial you do get more frequent checks. That's one of the things that swayed me in the end. Also my trials nurse explained the other day, if a trial doesn't seem to be working it is immediately stopped so no one is put at risk. I've also got a better understanding of why it can take around 10 years before a trial can be declared safe and put out for general use. As for the cold cap I found that got progressively uncomfortable, probably like you, due to thinning/bald patches. Worth perserviering with though. The WBC injections💉💉💉 can be uncomfortable at times, it's a case of trial and error until you get it right . Get plenty of rest. Take care xxxx
More lovely photos from your garden. They certainly brighten up my day🌹🌻🌷🌳☺. I look forward to our own quince and figs looking as impressive as yours. Hubby came up with the name figlets the other day when we discussing the size of the figs developing on our fig tree, they're that small at the moment. I'm really looking forward to our break in Aix. We fly out next Wednesday and return Sunday. Not long but long enough to escape all this bc stuff for a while. xxx
Out on good behaviour.....now, behave yourself, keep your nose clean...keep low move fast....xxxx
I'm home, and suddenly shattered. Shower and bed for me. Catch up with you all tomorrow.
Fab photos Ocean21🤗
I would love to go on a ‘yoga holiday ‘ in the future.
The day event was lovely but 15 women in a yurt was a bit crowded. I think 10 would have been a better number ( who wants to worry about banging into their neighbour when twisting left and right on their mat ?) it also got surprisingly hot in there -as my neighbour joked ‘yoga flow turned into hot yoga - and I was wearing a long sleeved T’ we had to open the yurt door.
The lunchtime was delicious though with a selection of salads , dips , bread and cheese. Also cake 🤗
Plenty of teas/coffee.
Not sure why the yoga instructor decided to light the wood stove in there in the afternoon ( as nobody was cold) she had stacked her yoga blocks along side it and a few of them started to burn. It was good that one of the ladies noticed ( we thought it was an odd smelling candle!) I did feel for her as now she has to replace at least 5 or 6 blocks.
I have done yoga outside and I think that is much better, weather permitting. The yurt was great for all the other stuff we did .
Re. Toothpaste and mouthwash we use here at home and so far no lurgies for me.
Yes, to brushing teeth and gums vigorously ( especially when gums are bleeding). Baking soda gets our vote too, as does floss and inter dental stick things.
Yes, I agree we have great sitcom material 🤪