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Re: CBD oil to help with cancer


@zena75 wrote:
Hi ,
I've been using cbd oil for 4 weeks , I'm sure n paciltacel for weekly x12 and am on week 3 . I have no neuropathy at all and my SEs are almost nothing.. only hot sweats ( about 6 a day ) and awake a bit a night but I always did that anyway..
il post link for taking it with paciltacel and find out where my friend gets the oil .
Zena x
https://puresciencelab.com/cbd-can-protect-breast-cancer-patients-from-chemotherapy-induced-side-eff...

Zena, thank you!

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@MrsSowerberry wrote:

Firstly, hemp is a variety of cannabis so I'm not sure what your point is there.

Secondly, data available suggests that CBD interacts with cytochrome p450 enzymes, the same pathway which metabolises tamoxifen. Therefore caution at least is recommended. What would be the point in taking tamoxifen if you then also take something else which inhibits its metabolism to active metabolites?


MrsSowerberry, thank you! CBD helped me a lot.

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Hello red_robin

 

I’m new to this form and have been undergoing treatment for primary breast cancer which sad to say has now spread to my liver. Is there any way you can send me the link for the CBD supplier you use? I have no idea how to send you a PM so if you can advise me on that too please.

 

Thanks so much

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Hi Mrssoweberry 

Thanks for the reply, the only data available which is not based on any studies, is biased. 

The available data has been written by pharma. 

Grapefruit also interacts with the P450 enzymes, what is your point. 

Until unbiased  studies are undertaken, no one can say if CBD interacts with Tamoxifen. 

 

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Re: CBD oil to help with cancer

Firstly, hemp is a variety of cannabis so I'm not sure what your point is there.

Secondly, data available suggests that CBD interacts with cytochrome p450 enzymes, the same pathway which metabolises tamoxifen. Therefore caution at least is recommended. What would be the point in taking tamoxifen if you then also take something else which inhibits its metabolism to active metabolites?

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Hi formyherowife

Im in the U.K., I started using cannabis oil from cannabis as part of a trial I was on, with the cannabis oil manufacturer. 

Personally I found the cannabis oil ok, however I preferred the CBD oil from Hemp.

Im no longer part of the trial. 

If you can get Cannabis oil then I would suggest give it a try. 

Your wife will benefit from the Phytocannaboids regardless. 

I take 6000mg of CBD, so about 30% CBD, the higher the more beneficial. 

Lots of love to both of you, you are an amazing support for her. 

My hubby was great during my treatments, he did so much for me, emotionally and physically. 

πŸ’•

 

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Hi Lovemama

 

We are in Toronto, Ontario

 

Wondering if anything like that exists in Ontario

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Hello Mai! You can also try the best Swiss quality on the market. Hope u enjoy! https://formulaswiss.com/

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Hi ForMyheroWife,

In which part of Canada are you based?  I live in BC, Canada. 

Since the legalization of medical cannabis in Canada last year, the BC cancer agency of the Provincial Health Services Authority has already kicked in several studies on the effect of medical cannabis to cancer patients. You may be interested in the below articles.

(1) http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/coping-and-support-site/Documents/MedicalCannabis/BCCancerMedicalCannabisF...

 (2) https://bccancerfoundation.com/blog/october-01-2018/how-can-cannabis-improve-patient-quality-life

(3) https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-cancer-to-lead-first-national-cannabis-clinical-trial-f...

(4) http://www.cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/diagnosis-and-treatment/complementary-therapies/medical-c...

ps.

I was selected to participate in the "Cannabis Use in Cancer: current state at BC cancer patient survey". However, I was not qualified to participate in the cannabis clinical trial as I was having chemo during the trial period.

 

 

 

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Hi Everyone, 

 

My partner was just diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer, stage 2

 

Invasive ductal carcinoma

Intermediate to high grade

no lymphovascular invasion

lymph node negative

 

I don't want to hesitate and am a firm beleiver in Cannabais Oil and/or CBD oil.

She's knows various complimentary methods to get better, and i've been tasked to find out what the best Cannabais based solution might be for Triple Negative breast cancer.

We are based in Canada so we have the luxury of not caring about legality.

I've read various trails below, but can't seem to take action based on any of the comments. Can anyone direct me to a reputable source for the most effective oil or cbd solution? 

 

 

 

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Hi Mrs Sowerberry 

Thanks for posting the article, however for one reason or another people are still getting confused about CBD. 

The article talks about cannabis oil, the oil produced from the cannabis plant 

The CBD you buy in the shops comes from Hemp. Cannabis and Cannabis derived products are illegal to sell in the U.K.

The common factor you find in CBD oil and Cannabis oil is CBD or Cannaboidal. 

Macmillan need to do further research re CBD, the article is incorrect and misinformed. 

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I was wondering about this and asked a Macmillan pharmacist who looked into it and found recent report indicating potential adverse effects and drug interactions Smiley Sad

https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/cannabidiol-oil-potential-adverse-effects-and-drug-interactions/

https://www.macmillan.org.uk/information-and-support/coping/complementary-therapies/complementary-th...

I've just spent a lot of dosh on a bottle of CBD oil too Smiley Frustrated More fool me!

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Hi Sissy60 

I'm from the February group. Just checking on how you are. Hope everything is going ok. We've missed you.   

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Thanks Morgain Brilliant summary ... much appreciated.

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Hi Ladies 

CBD oil has no contraindications with Tamoxifen, I have a book called The medical marijuana guide book, with research to suggest no contraindications.

I had a Mastectomy Dec 18, I thought my outcome would be worse due to large tumour and lymph node involvement. I had a partial response to chemo, However the tumour came out with wide clear margins, lymph nodes had shrunk significantly. All the cancer has gone. I know that was due to the CBD oil. 

I still take it twice a day, I continue to be a participant in the study, however I’m using different CBD oils, Sativa during the day, indica at night. 

 I’m also drinking Tumeric, Curcumin and Boswellia in Almond milk three times a day, and using Iscador sub cutaneously. 

My hair started to grow back a month after chemo finished in December, my eyebrows and lashes also grew back in January. 

The CBD oil has been a big factor in my recovery, alongside everything else I’m doing. 

Currently having Radiotherapy, I’m using CBD balm on my sunburn skin, which is amazing. 

Good luck with your treatments ladies. 

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Hi there,

 

Re: CBD oil .Very interested in the study that your participating in.

Would like to try it but I live in France and the laws here are in the dark ages.

 

Had my first chemo session on 21st , nausea which ebbs and flows but my biggest concern is my lack of appetite. Up until chemo had been managing to keep weight steady but since I can see in my face I’ve lost some . The chemo has affected my taste buds too which  linked to the loss of appetite definitely doesn’t help.

 

What has your experience of cbd oil been like? Has it helped your appetite?

Would love to know more about the study.

X

 

 

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Hi, I am finding this all very confusing. My reason for considering to try the oil is because of the side effects I have from tamoxifen and also aniexty. I had a masteromy last Feb with clear margin and no lymph nodes involvement. My cancer (5 tumours) was ER/PR + and HER2- so does this mean no should involve the? Xx

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Thank you for this information, it's very helpful. I am considering taking oil due to the very bad side effects from Tamifloxen but am finding it a minefield to be honest. I have been told by some people to take cbd with the but others have told me to avoid the because it interfers with tx and to be careful as my cancer was hormone driven. 

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Hi Coley
I got my research information from a company who’s been undertaking research on CBD and THC in cancer. The research is based on human studies, the company highlighted THC could feed ER + positive breast cancer, instead of hindering it.
I have spoken to a couple of ladies who took CBD throughout their cancer treatments, the CBD helped with Chemo symptoms, including nausea and apetite.
I can keep you posted on the research, I am one of the participants in the study, I have been taking 40% CBD, which has been amazing.
Hope that helps
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Hi Monica, where do you find your information to research what oil is good for types of hormone cancer ? I am ER +, grade 3 ductal breast cancer, 25 years old and had a double mastectomy with clear margins. I have had my first chemo and I’m not coping well so I want to go down a different road for reducing reacurance risk. How come you have to be careful with THC with er+? Thanks Smiley Happy xx
CLJ
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Hi healthy living...

 

Would you know if it can be taken for triple negative secondary cancer, which is what my partner has? 

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I have been using and now openly promoting the benefits of CBD benefits due to a close friend being diagnosed with cancer.

He started with the CBD oils when the laws changed and the medical properties were finally addressed as positive.

He found a great supplier, there range is vast, from oils, creams, edibles, to the flowers you can drink in tea or smoke. I would recommend to all, there’s lots of information provided too, which I haven’t seen on many sites offering CBD products.

www.hempelf.com/uk

Good luck all!
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Hi Seamus
Iv been ordering from CBD Brothers, they are highly reputable, products are very high quality.
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Hi Lisa
CBD is definitely beneficial for triple hormone negative, THC would be recommended as well, I take a 40% CBD oil, with a small amount of THC, i am ER+, so I need to be careful, with the THC.
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Hi
Iv been taking CBD oil from Diagnosis in May, CBD has helped me with the side effects of Chemo, including the muscle aches, pins and needles, and Nausea.
Iv had no Nausea or sickness with my next lot of chemo, as it’s a low dose chemotherapy (Pacli)
Oncologist does not know I take it, however I’m taking lots of supplements that’s also helping.
I would personally recommend taking CBD, it’s very helpful with anxiety and physical pains.
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Re: CBD oil to help with cancer

There are a multitude of reasons to take CBD oil. The compound allows you to receive all the benefits that come with cannabis without the high. Currently, the most common use for CBD oil is as a contemporary tool for wellbeing.

 

However, there are major research programmes underway that are exploring the potential for CBD to ease chronic pain, as well as to treat a variety of diseases and ailments. With further research, there is hope that the CBD compound could have life-changing effects such as helping with cancer.

 

Unfortunately, in the case of CBD oil, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that it can help to alleviate the symptoms and provide much-needed respite for cancer. One day this could change, but right now, there is no guarantee that CBD has no medical validity at this stage.

 

This article might help shed some light and provide clarity.

 

Hope this helps.

 

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Want to share my lovely positive experience with my oncologist today, and an unexpected effect from CBD oil I have not seen mentioned anywhere. Long post but am offering experience and information as a grab bag, including my diet and supplements.

 

I  have moderate breast cancer possibly present 2 yrs as had a slight uncertain firmness there for that long I wasn;t sure about, and finally did mammogram, ultrasound, biopsies in August (last month). A slight swelling in lymph node armpit observed. The tumour is hormone positive on one receptor. I am post menopause so I have been taking Letrazole  (younger women would be on Tamoxifen).

Valium as I am highly anxious personality and fear of surgery, not living lng enough to finsih writing my books, effect on my family, all very intense. Need to stop my raging emotions dramas not nice for family and medics. I do know meditations and counselling techniques but need more.

 

I have done lots of research. I am not refusing conventional medicine. Mastectomy is a strong option, but I am not a good candidate for chemo due to poor immune system which risks sepsis. if various things like the Letrazole, supplements, diet, can cause enough shrinkage it might be possible to have a smaller surgery with less trauma to the system, and even avoid the node removal which is nasttier than the breast surgery.

So overall very keen on supplements, diet, aim to shrink the tumour that way, have smaller surgery, and possibly radio. Or better (small hope).

 

SUPPLEMENTS Taking Calcium and Vit D as Letrazole not good for bones.

Taking organic prebiotic as supporting the gut biome always good.

Taking echinacea as an immune system boost 2-3000mg daily. 

Just started CBD oil, drops under tongue. See below.

 

I am obese and cancer loves fat esp hormonal types. My diet was already good as fighting the obesity many years which long ago illness caused. But now it's serious time. Haven't had alcohol more than a few times a year anyway but my weakness is sweeties. Dear husband keeps a secret stash and I have a small piece of choc reward if I can manage a clinic test without hysterics (I am cowardly). Average small item quarter of a small bar choc, once weekly, OR a quarter dessert serving. (Useful technique, eat tiny tiny doll size mouthfuls to get taste wthout bulk.)

Working on eating in a 12 hour window so breakfat at 9 means supper by 9. Apparently that helps a lot. Success on about half the days and when I fail I am eating fruit.

My aim is one carbohydrate a day. Already long habit of organic porridge breakfast. That now competes if I want eg potato, or bread or pasta later in the day. Success rate about 5 days a week, 2 days of lapsing when stress overload, but that is a good achevement.

Dairy is a major cancer promoter. Milk feeds cell growth for young animals so bad for adults. Weep, I adore butter. Limit on carbohydrte helps as most dairy goes with crab food. Am making dairy very small smear of butter and minimum milk on porridge. Had some cheese on a lapse day.

Working up to having a vegetable soup _ fruit day once a week, then up to twice a week. Not got there yet, I used to do this once a week 30 years ago before the 5-2 diet was ever heard of and very effective weight control.

Bought a cheap second hard treadmill and use it for short bursts 3-5 mins while food in microwave! or after a bath when muscles relaxed. Did once  a day, now success at twice a day now, aiming for three times.

 

Just started CBD oil a few days ago, 3 drops under tongue twice a day, 15% strength. It's now, this year, legal in UK as food supllement, or painkiller. Will increase strength, quantity as I get used to it. (I did try making some myself but the THC in the natural plant meant mental effects including my fear of surgery feeling stronger. Plus I'm an intellectual so don't want my mind muddied.) The online chemist suppliers mean I get the CBD extract only - the law sets a maximim THC of 1% if publicly sold. There are two reputable online pharmacies in the UK, one of them sells it. Another project has a good reputation, cbd brothers. Also an Ireland company green but their dose os not strong so would need quantity of drops. That should help your searches.

 

OK here;s the results of all that.

Oncologist (my cancer doctor) and all the nurses (when I take tests) ask me what I am taking, doing. Strong approval for everything I have chosen to do, diet regime, supplemments INCLUDING the CBD oil. This is a leading teaching hospital UK.

It seems they cannot actually suggest CBD because research has only shown success in shrinking tumours in mice, or in human tissue under microscope (from biopsies). Living human research has now started I believe. But while my professionals can't suggest it if I choose to use it they beam approval, and say good for you.

Second my weight is falling a lot. My energy is far higher, stamina too. That will reinforce my immune syste and very restricted  dairy will starve the C cells.

Third and surprisingly the CBD controls the heavy sweats of my Letrazole. After the first doses of CBD the sweats just stopped, 100%. Before I was wet through, bed, clothes .... I have read that CBD might actually hold the hormine drugs Ltazole, Tamoxifen in the body for longer. Not proved yet but serious possibility. I haven't seen this sweats control. Yesterday I came home from hospital and dropped dead asleep exhausted so didn't take CBD, woke up in sweat. Evidential it's the CBD controlling sweat not just me accimatising. Bit early to make final judgement though.

Fourthly nice minor effect, have had bad sweat rash under breasts, down flanks, under tummy, due to obesity and a hospital stay when I wans't washed enough 3 years ago. Haven't been able to shift it with creams. CBD is controlling it, definitely it is less in the few days I have done CBD.

 

CBD experience. I bought it in a dropper so easy t apply, just under tongue and press once for each drop. Trying 3 drops a go @ 15%.

Taste is less horrible than I expected so I don't swallow for as long as I can. Drops under tongue avoid the stomach acids, goes straight into blood.)

Vety fast effect in minutes. I can feel it happening in my body but the feelings are mild.

Definite relaxation. Muscles relax. Physical balance as a I stood up was a tiny bit bit affected for 10 mins. Very tiny wouldn't have noticed of I hadn't been alert on lookout. My mind (cognition) is very slightly affected - I wouldn't want to drive a car for the first 2 hours but after that I am completely clear headed. (It's not as strong as a couple of alcohol units I remember from the past but I am just being careful) Intellectually similar, the first 2 hours I am a tiny bit slower to put research analysis in order but then I'm normally very fast.

So essentially I think I need to treat the first 2 hours carefully but after that there's about 7 hours at least of clear time. I can't drive saefly when I'm pouring Letrazole flood sweats either so the fact it controls the sweats is a big positive.

The anxiety effect is interesting. I can feel the engine of my emotions slightly slowing down which lets me get them under control more and I don't collapse in tears. For a cowardly hysterical perosnality who flashes into crying or temper very fast this is welcome to handle stress better. It feels similar to valium except I can feel the effect more clearly somehow. I feel more in control.

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: CBD oil to help with cancer

Tourdefrance,  there is only anecdotal evidence in the news (and most don't divulge their oncotype) and no clinical trials have been conducted so its up to each individual to decide for themselves.  It's still very much in research and at this point no one can advise.  We can all only share what we are doing without any clinical control being observed.  This makes for weak evidence on decision-making as the control criteria isn't the same for all.  Sorry if the answer is not as clear cut as you had hoped but it would be wrong of anyone to suggest there is conclusive evidence for tumour control.  I would not consider it as a replacement for conventional treatment but if you haven't started treatment yet there is probably nothing to lose in trying it whilst you wait, other than money!  btw, I'm ER+ and I use CBD oil.  xx

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Hello All, 

 

Please could anyone tell me if they have triple negative breast cancer and have found CBD oil to be helpful not just for pain but for slowing the growth of tumours? Thank you

 

lisa

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Hi
Which one are you buying? Are you taking it orally?
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Hoonay is correct.  I've read high CBD and low THC is best for breast cancer.  I buy mine from Canabidol.com and I've been using it since I finished treatment.  I'm now NED after having a 90mm tumour and 9/12 lymph nodes affected.  CBD definitely helps with anxiety for me and there is anecdotal evidence and a lot of positive research out there for preventative effects but it is ongoing and as yet inconclusive.  Xx

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Could you please tell me wherealise you get your cbd oil from.
Thank you
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Sorry should read where do get your cbd oil from.
Thank you
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Could you please tell me where to get tesco cbd oil
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Hi I'm wondering if any one can help me. I'm 6 yrs down the line on tamoxifen. I've had a totall hysterectomy 2 yrs ago. I really want to come off the tamoxifen as I've reduced my levels by having the hysterectomy, just want to ask if any one just takes cbd oil instead of taking tablets.
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I've been looking too. Join CBD Consumers fb page, they have a wealth of info. Also, leave 2hrs between meds and CBD.
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My friend and I are both cancer survivors and I have had side effects from radiotherapy 9 months still ongoing. We are both wanting to start Cbd oil but are worried about it being tampered with. Did you look on internet where to purchase from. Any small amount will help both us, thank you for reading jo
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Red Robbins where do you get cannabis oil from please as I can't pm you. Take.

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Hi 

my partner has just had a mastectomy - the tumor was quite large 92 mm & of 16 lymph nodes removed 7 were found to be cancerous - she has just had a c t scan & marrowbone scan & if the results show the cancer has not spread then she should start chemotherapy next Friday. We have a supply of cannabis oil but my partner is reluctant to start taking it fearing the oil will compromise the effects of chemotherapy - do you have any advice that might help her to decide whether to take the oil alongside her chemotherapy treatment. She is 48 years old & is opting to use the cold cap during chemotherapy hoping this might help hair loss.

thank you in advance

kind regards

Jonathan

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@Peta wrote:

Hi Maria909

 

Some reports suggest that CBD oil might help some people who have cancer - it does seem to help with some of the side-effects of chemo for instance.   haven't seen any proper medical studies that suggest that it's a good idea to use it *instead of* Tamoxifen.  It's okay to try it alongside the treatment your doctor recommends, but Tamoxifen is a very highly researched drug and is proven to be effective for breast cancer.

 

Tamoxifen works by blocking the production of the hormones that were in effect feeding your hormone positive cancer.  Studies show that taking Tamoxifen (or similar, ie Letrozole)  blocks the uptaken and production of hormones, and people live longer and are less likely to have a re-occurance.   

 

I have been on Tamoxifen for 3 years now. I have to take it for ten years.  I took cbd oil when I was having chemo and I do think it helped a bit with the sickness.  Tamoxifen is estimated to be giving me a 25% increased  chance of survival over five years.  I had a 2.8cm lump , very hormone sensitive, and 6/17 lymph nodes positive. So for me, I think Tamoxifen will increase my chances of surviving.  And I hate taking tablets too!

Best wishes

 

Peta

 

 




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I would avoid THC.  I've seen people swear that you need high THC but I've heard horror stories from women with estrogen receptor cancers who say THC was fuel to a fire.    I've been looking at a site called Realm of Caring for products they recommend and through them I found Charlotte's Web.  HIgh CBD/low to no THC.   I only JUST ordered it, can't speak to any healing properties, but I wish us all the best of success.

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From what I've been able to learn, if you are ER+, HER+ OR triple positive, then you do NOT want anything with THC.   There's talk of THC actually almost boosting estrogen, not the CBD.  I'm only newly diagnosed, but I'm looking at Charlotte's Web for my oil. 

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I  have just had breast cancer surgery, they can't at present give me radiation treatment because they found a shadow/nodule on my lung plus I cant have hormone treatment as I have osteoporosis, so I really want the oil that can help. Thank you

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I have just had surgery for breast cancer and am awaiting scan results on my lung for a shadow/nodule. I want to get the oil used for treating cancer.

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I have just had surgery for breast cancer and am awaiting scan results on my lung for a shadow/nodule. I want to get the oil used for cancer.

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I am really interested in this grade A oil. How can I get it please and what is the cost. Thank you
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I would be grateful if anyone could get me some good and effective oil.  My husband has terminal cancer which has now spread to his brain.  Chemotherapy and radiotherapy have now failed to work and this is his last chance.  Please can someone help