Hi, I am finding this all very confusing. My reason for considering to try the oil is because of the side effects I have from tamoxifen and also aniexty. I had a masteromy last Feb with clear margin and no lymph nodes involvement. My cancer (5 tumours) was ER/PR + and HER2- so does this mean no should involve the? Xx
Thank you for this information, it's very helpful. I am considering taking oil due to the very bad side effects from Tamifloxen but am finding it a minefield to be honest. I have been told by some people to take cbd with the but others have told me to avoid the because it interfers with tx and to be careful as my cancer was hormone driven.
Hi healthy living...
Would you know if it can be taken for triple negative secondary cancer, which is what my partner has?
There are a multitude of reasons to take CBD oil. The compound allows you to receive all the benefits that come with cannabis without the high. Currently, the most common use for CBD oil is as a contemporary tool for wellbeing.
However, there are major research programmes underway that are exploring the potential for CBD to ease chronic pain, as well as to treat a variety of diseases and ailments. With further research, there is hope that the CBD compound could have life-changing effects such as helping with cancer.
Unfortunately, in the case of CBD oil, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that it can help to alleviate the symptoms and provide much-needed respite for cancer. One day this could change, but right now, there is no guarantee that CBD has no medical validity at this stage.
Hope this helps.
Want to share my lovely positive experience with my oncologist today, and an unexpected effect from CBD oil I have not seen mentioned anywhere. Long post but am offering experience and information as a grab bag, including my diet and supplements.
I have moderate breast cancer possibly present 2 yrs as had a slight uncertain firmness there for that long I wasn;t sure about, and finally did mammogram, ultrasound, biopsies in August (last month). A slight swelling in lymph node armpit observed. The tumour is hormone positive on one receptor. I am post menopause so I have been taking Letrazole (younger women would be on Tamoxifen).
Valium as I am highly anxious personality and fear of surgery, not living lng enough to finsih writing my books, effect on my family, all very intense. Need to stop my raging emotions dramas not nice for family and medics. I do know meditations and counselling techniques but need more.
I have done lots of research. I am not refusing conventional medicine. Mastectomy is a strong option, but I am not a good candidate for chemo due to poor immune system which risks sepsis. if various things like the Letrazole, supplements, diet, can cause enough shrinkage it might be possible to have a smaller surgery with less trauma to the system, and even avoid the node removal which is nasttier than the breast surgery.
So overall very keen on supplements, diet, aim to shrink the tumour that way, have smaller surgery, and possibly radio. Or better (small hope).
SUPPLEMENTS Taking Calcium and Vit D as Letrazole not good for bones.
Taking organic prebiotic as supporting the gut biome always good.
Taking echinacea as an immune system boost 2-3000mg daily.
Just started CBD oil, drops under tongue. See below.
I am obese and cancer loves fat esp hormonal types. My diet was already good as fighting the obesity many years which long ago illness caused. But now it's serious time. Haven't had alcohol more than a few times a year anyway but my weakness is sweeties. Dear husband keeps a secret stash and I have a small piece of choc reward if I can manage a clinic test without hysterics (I am cowardly). Average small item quarter of a small bar choc, once weekly, OR a quarter dessert serving. (Useful technique, eat tiny tiny doll size mouthfuls to get taste wthout bulk.)
Working on eating in a 12 hour window so breakfat at 9 means supper by 9. Apparently that helps a lot. Success on about half the days and when I fail I am eating fruit.
My aim is one carbohydrate a day. Already long habit of organic porridge breakfast. That now competes if I want eg potato, or bread or pasta later in the day. Success rate about 5 days a week, 2 days of lapsing when stress overload, but that is a good achevement.
Dairy is a major cancer promoter. Milk feeds cell growth for young animals so bad for adults. Weep, I adore butter. Limit on carbohydrte helps as most dairy goes with crab food. Am making dairy very small smear of butter and minimum milk on porridge. Had some cheese on a lapse day.
Working up to having a vegetable soup _ fruit day once a week, then up to twice a week. Not got there yet, I used to do this once a week 30 years ago before the 5-2 diet was ever heard of and very effective weight control.
Bought a cheap second hard treadmill and use it for short bursts 3-5 mins while food in microwave! or after a bath when muscles relaxed. Did once a day, now success at twice a day now, aiming for three times.
Just started CBD oil a few days ago, 3 drops under tongue twice a day, 15% strength. It's now, this year, legal in UK as food supllement, or painkiller. Will increase strength, quantity as I get used to it. (I did try making some myself but the THC in the natural plant meant mental effects including my fear of surgery feeling stronger. Plus I'm an intellectual so don't want my mind muddied.) The online chemist suppliers mean I get the CBD extract only - the law sets a maximim THC of 1% if publicly sold. There are two reputable online pharmacies in the UK, one of them sells it. Another project has a good reputation, cbd brothers. Also an Ireland company green but their dose os not strong so would need quantity of drops. That should help your searches.
OK here;s the results of all that.
Oncologist (my cancer doctor) and all the nurses (when I take tests) ask me what I am taking, doing. Strong approval for everything I have chosen to do, diet regime, supplemments INCLUDING the CBD oil. This is a leading teaching hospital UK.
It seems they cannot actually suggest CBD because research has only shown success in shrinking tumours in mice, or in human tissue under microscope (from biopsies). Living human research has now started I believe. But while my professionals can't suggest it if I choose to use it they beam approval, and say good for you.
Second my weight is falling a lot. My energy is far higher, stamina too. That will reinforce my immune syste and very restricted dairy will starve the C cells.
Third and surprisingly the CBD controls the heavy sweats of my Letrazole. After the first doses of CBD the sweats just stopped, 100%. Before I was wet through, bed, clothes .... I have read that CBD might actually hold the hormine drugs Ltazole, Tamoxifen in the body for longer. Not proved yet but serious possibility. I haven't seen this sweats control. Yesterday I came home from hospital and dropped dead asleep exhausted so didn't take CBD, woke up in sweat. Evidential it's the CBD controlling sweat not just me accimatising. Bit early to make final judgement though.
Fourthly nice minor effect, have had bad sweat rash under breasts, down flanks, under tummy, due to obesity and a hospital stay when I wans't washed enough 3 years ago. Haven't been able to shift it with creams. CBD is controlling it, definitely it is less in the few days I have done CBD.
CBD experience. I bought it in a dropper so easy t apply, just under tongue and press once for each drop. Trying 3 drops a go @ 15%.
Taste is less horrible than I expected so I don't swallow for as long as I can. Drops under tongue avoid the stomach acids, goes straight into blood.)
Vety fast effect in minutes. I can feel it happening in my body but the feelings are mild.
Definite relaxation. Muscles relax. Physical balance as a I stood up was a tiny bit bit affected for 10 mins. Very tiny wouldn't have noticed of I hadn't been alert on lookout. My mind (cognition) is very slightly affected - I wouldn't want to drive a car for the first 2 hours but after that I am completely clear headed. (It's not as strong as a couple of alcohol units I remember from the past but I am just being careful) Intellectually similar, the first 2 hours I am a tiny bit slower to put research analysis in order but then I'm normally very fast.
So essentially I think I need to treat the first 2 hours carefully but after that there's about 7 hours at least of clear time. I can't drive saefly when I'm pouring Letrazole flood sweats either so the fact it controls the sweats is a big positive.
The anxiety effect is interesting. I can feel the engine of my emotions slightly slowing down which lets me get them under control more and I don't collapse in tears. For a cowardly hysterical perosnality who flashes into crying or temper very fast this is welcome to handle stress better. It feels similar to valium except I can feel the effect more clearly somehow. I feel more in control.
Tourdefrance, there is only anecdotal evidence in the news (and most don't divulge their oncotype) and no clinical trials have been conducted so its up to each individual to decide for themselves. It's still very much in research and at this point no one can advise. We can all only share what we are doing without any clinical control being observed. This makes for weak evidence on decision-making as the control criteria isn't the same for all. Sorry if the answer is not as clear cut as you had hoped but it would be wrong of anyone to suggest there is conclusive evidence for tumour control. I would not consider it as a replacement for conventional treatment but if you haven't started treatment yet there is probably nothing to lose in trying it whilst you wait, other than money! btw, I'm ER+ and I use CBD oil. xx
Please could anyone tell me if they have triple negative breast cancer and have found CBD oil to be helpful not just for pain but for slowing the growth of tumours? Thank you
Hoonay is correct. I've read high CBD and low THC is best for breast cancer. I buy mine from Canabidol.com and I've been using it since I finished treatment. I'm now NED after having a 90mm tumour and 9/12 lymph nodes affected. CBD definitely helps with anxiety for me and there is anecdotal evidence and a lot of positive research out there for preventative effects but it is ongoing and as yet inconclusive. Xx
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