Yeah I know you're right Fran.....
i am going to take temp again in half an hour to see if still high and have made a bargain with myself to go to a and e if it's still high. Live in my own so lots to organise if I do......
hope you are treated and ok.
Like Amb I am just coming up to end of first week having started on 2nd August.
still not really cracking the nausea - I'm going to call the nurses again tomorrow if things don't improve.
Temp seems to peak now and then - was 37.9 a little while ago, but I feel as if I would be making a fuss if I called anyone.
Hope you escape a and e Katluan - I don't want to go as it could all be for nothing. I'm already started on my antibiotics as I developed a sore throat yesterday.
Been sleeping or resting most of today as fatigue is ridiculous. Hope to get a whole decent night in now as that may help tomorrow.
I feel for you and hope you are ok. The ladies on here all seem so brave and upbeat about things!
I am just a day ahead of you, had 1st FEC on 1st August.
I am just starting to feel have turned a corner today but would not feel confident driving or going far on my own as so woozy headed when upright for any length of time.
I like many others am anxious about hair loss and woke suddenly and panicked this morning thinking it was all laid on my pillow!! My head is starting to tingle and am noticing strands are falling easily. The texture has altered too and am afraid to wash vigorously or blow dry. I decided not to do cold cap and just had my hair cut really short last week. Am ready with some nice head wear and will see hairdresser at chemo unit when next there. I think once it starts coming out then it will be better to accept and will soon adapt. It just seems so frightening at this stage.
take care and keep in touch
SB - hello I'm from the June Chemo Starters, I have had 3 x FEC so far and now about to start 3 x T so know how you feel. The hair thing is a big big deal for all of us, no matter how prepared you think you are. Mine started shedding at day 12 first cycle, little bits nothing much at first, but by day 15 it was falling out everywhere, so I did brave the shave. Bloody hardest day ever I won't lie, but once it was gone I started to accept it, I have a lovely wig which looks good and it has taken a while but I am used to it now. Not to say I can't wait to have hair again but you do adapt, lots of ladies on here have embraced the baldness and are quite happy to go out without a covering, I don't wear anything at home and even pop out to the bin without anything, but haven't really braved out without a hat. Do whatever feels right for you, if you don't wish to shave, don't, you'll get there when you are ready. By the way.. .by cycle 2 of FEC I have spikey bits of hair still all over, and some growing, and still have eyebrows and eyelashes (little bit thinner), underarms gone, down below very thin but leg hair STILL THERE unfortunately !! Big Hugs... Kip xx
Thank you lovely ladies - isn't it great to have one another 😄..... about the food taste thing, I thought to myself tonight, the only difference between all of the food on my plate this evening were textures.... so I'm thinking, eat lettuce and cucumber as they taste the same as chocolate! And obviously some of each kind of essential food for nutrition, but this is one of the ways I plan to beat this. Feel sick whatever I eat so may as well be healthy.
One tip I have discovered that really has worked well for me, is to have a notebook and every day, first thing when you wake up, write down your drug schedule. E.g. 10am anti nausea, etc. And for the injection at 4 pm for me to keep it regular, I set the alarm on my phone as well. I tick off each drug as I take them, and it has helped with a sense of achievement and less muddliness generally. I also write down what happened on the day when I go to bed, to kind of journal it. Looking back I think this will be helpful next cycle.
Going to to try to sleep again😴😴. See you all in the morning - when another day begins and it will be one day nearer to the end.
Thanks for encouragement - I'm just sitting down to some salad. Everything on my plate tastes like cardboard! Normal?
Amb and GG it does get better but make sure you tell your nurse as they will give you more or different Medes to help. Week 3 you will definitely start to feel better, make the most of it and try to get out and enjoy life
it is worth it in the end x
Yes I am on the same page Amb! Almost exactly..... just off to the hospital for more sickness meds and I'm craving Calippo lollies!!
Feel as if I'm about 93 and hardly mobile....
Jude, I had a banging heachache each FEC cycle, take some paracetomal if you need it, but remember to take your temperature first though!
Amb67 it does get easier, the first week is usually toughest I find, take all medication you can, take something for the bowels if you need it and rest as much as you need. Try to drink j know you don't always felt like it, try ice lollies or suckjng sweets. For the nasty mouth I have Biotene mouthwash (buy in boots or supersrug) it's specially forc chemo and they also do a toothpaste too. I also use corsydl mouthwash which chemo unit said to try, it's quite strong so you can water it down. Also cooled salt water is a great mouthwash and really helped with sore mouth too.
Keep a diary of symptoms every day and you can tell chemo unit now it went at your next appt plus you will see a pattern and can prepare for next time. It does get better so hang in there, you will have some good days again so plan something nice for them. Take care Kip
hope you are all coping!
i am now day 6 following 1st FEC-t and got to say still feel pretty rough but managing. Trying to tell myself that anyhow!
nausea remains on and off, having loose stools, waking still at 3am, mouth becoming sore, appetite not so good and taste going, feel woozy and unsteady, trying to potter around house but becoming worn out very quickly.
hoping to pick up soon.......please!!!!
does it get easier ?
I haven't had my first chemo session yet but reading all your ''top tips'' is great preparation! Also helps to know we are all in this together.
Multitasker - thanks, pre chemo assessment, bloods and heart scan all booked in tomorrow so I should be good to go on Friday
Street Fighter - well done on getting through first session
Georgie Gee - totally get how you feel, i've had the same thoughts - so much to go through isn't it
Jude1962 - I feel like I've already got chemo brain and I haven't even had my first session yet! :-)
Good luck for the next few days lovely ladies....every day we are one step closer....
Multitasker,thanks. Had my first chemo today and at the moment feel fine !!! Had the cold cap so I was there for hours but will be worth it if I can keep my hair. I have mentocloperamide and dexamethasone for steroids and anti sickness, hope they work. You obviously need yo have U our melds tweeted so you don't suffer again. I was never sick on my FEC T. Do you have a 24 hour emergency number to ring, I think I would have ting it for advice in your situation. Good luck with round 2 xx
Hello ladies, just popped it check your progress. Sorry to hear some of you are suffering with sickness, if is horrible. I found eating little and often helped, mostly salty things and try to drink lots, fizzy water or tonic water helped me. It doss get better after a few days though and you get used to it. Take the meds. I can fully understand the thought of why are we doing this when we felt so well, I still feel like that, j have 3 more T to go and it does seem like a long haul but we can and will get through it all. Also if you can and feel up to it go out for a walk ,(remember your factor 50) even just a short walk makes you feel better and helps with the chemo fuzzy brain. I also find that day 6 and 7 when I come off the steroids is a teary one, .lot of ladies feel the same, you just have to let it pass and you bounce back after, just be prepared. Take care all Kip. Xx
Yes, we are all aboard the ship aren't we, with travel sickness pills too!! Might try the band things tomorrow, if I get up and feel ok to drive to the shops.... it is comforting though to have one another isn't it. I guess the next thing tonight is going to try to sleep... only 17 and a half weeks to go........ night night all, thanks for listening
G G xx
Have to laugh at my post on friday. Literally an hour later massive nausea and cramps set it. I felt like my body was possessed. It was brutal. Took all the meds I could. I felt my body was just cramped all over with nausea a layer on the top.
Thankfully about 2am I could feel it ease off a bit. Come a bit later I could take my first steroids and more anti nausea pills and it all seemed a little bit under control.
Yesterday I was pretty miserable. I was totally questioning what I was doing Georgie Gee too. Before this started I was the fittest and felt the best I had in years and now Im consenting to basically putting poison in my veins.
Hopefully I’m not jinxing myself, but feel an improvement again today - its all realtive bc anything is better than friday night
Other good news is changed the portacath dressings for first time (told to leave for a couple of days) and the wounds are SO much better than Friday (only now I realise how worried Id been about how they were healing, how theyd look etc) so huge weight off mind.
Guess we each have to learn how our bodies rythms work with the chemo drugs. Pretty scared to do it again but hope to talk to nursing team and try some changes to meds and timings. Quite a few posts on the forum about fasting and nausea, though Im not sure Im cut out for that.
Streetfighter, hope tomorrow goes OK for you, sounds like you have already had a long journey.
Has anyone thought of giving up the chemo?...... I have to be honest I'm wondering, if the surgeon says "all the cancer has gone", and then gives us this trauma (and I've only just started....) then why?....
I'm coming up for air after my 1st FEC T on Thursday.
Feel like I have been injected with a time bomb which could go off at any time with side effects, multiple times. Have had the go back for 2nd type of stronger nausea meds as cyclizine didn't work on Friday. Have had last of the stronger ones just now, and steroids have now finished. So I'm wondering what part of the time bomb will go off first..... it's scary isn't it?
I start tomorrow on a trial of Cabazitaxel. Had primary 6 years ago but now have secondaries in lung, bones and lung. Had FEC T for 18 weeks last time followed by 6 years of anastrozole but became resistant to it, big shock with diagnosis. But we keep smiling and taking the medication. Good luck to all other August starters X
Hi very good tip to take steroids morning and lunch time as it helps with sleeping. My nurse writes on the various boxes when to take them as I always get muddled.
Had my first dose of EC this morning. I was real worried about the Portacath but nurses said it was fine to use. Georgie Gee just be prepared for some bruising. The procedure doesnt hurt but a bit disconcerting 😬. the oncologist came round but said once equipment is in, its good to go. He warned that chemo slows down healing so be super careful keeping it clean etc.
Used the cold cap, no lie, its uncomforatble at first - think ice cream headache but after 20 mins I was Ok. Its bulky and gets in the way a bit. Helped that today was so super hot. Just have to wait and see if it helps at all.
Main SE at the mo is extremely light headed. Almost felt like I was coming round from anaesthetic earlier, which Nurse said could also be to do with the cold cap. Still feeling woozy at home now.
Jude, I was told not to take steroids in the evening bc they would stop me sleeping. Maybe something to ask next time?
Sorry to hear you’re feeling sick AMB67 - hopefully they can swop the drugs a bit. It seems everyone is using something different.
Picking my wig up on wednesday, Sunflower. Hope I’m feeling ok.
Good to hear you are doing ok Katluan, and hope your tests come back OK Cat67
thanks for reply.
yes was thinking the same re take home meds. Think they try you on cheaper ones first which is understandable. Will ring them Monday if no better.
Did you feel better or worse when the 3 days of steroids stopped?
Hope you are getting on ok
2 weeks out of 3 feeling Okish would be great!!
All the best for last 3 sessions
This is my first post but have found the forum really useful in the build up to having treatment. So thank you!
I had lumpectomy and node biopsy a month ago, found to be invasive ductal grade 3 negative to all hormones but no spread to lymph nodes.
I had my first FEC of x6 FEC-T on 1st August and so far have survived!! Then it's radiotherapy (80mile round trip everyday for 4 weeks)
The treatment itself went fine, was in the department for 3 hours, was offered lunch whilst there. The other patients seemed quite happy too. I took my 21year old daughter for company which was a good idea. I had decided beforehand not to try the cold cap as my hair is very short and I have just prepared myself for losing it now.
I have bought some nice head wear in readiness and have an appointment to see the hairdresser at the chemo unit next time I go to look at wigs, get some advice etc.
The afternoon I got home The nausea kicked in and I took the metachlorpromide regularly that day. Was awake by 2am pounding headache and nausea so not much sleep had.
Yesterday started the steroids 2mg x3 times a day and have got to say helped the nausea. Started feeling flushed in the face late afternoon and it is still the same this morning. Don't feel unwell though.
Was awake again at 3am last night but did eventually get back to sleep.
Appetite not been too good for a few days(no bad thing as need it to come off, not gain) just drinking lots of fluids to flush toxins through. Pee is less pink today!! Need to eat when take steroid so things like rice cake, banana, yogurt was managed yesterday.
I am lucky to have lots of friends and family support around me and for that I am grateful.
good luck to all you ladies out there going through it as well.
Be brave, strong and take what the hell they throw at us next!!!